Here's the post I was talking about @technoglot ! 💃✨✨ Hope you don't mind the lil poke at your own post's title.

I look forward to the comments on this one! What on earth could replace JS, if anything? 🤔

My first thought was PHP, which I think is next-level Stockholm Syndrome compared to JS! 🤣 It's giving me physical pain just imagining it.

I would create javascript

Maybe nowadays something could be done with Kotlin, I would rather not have to go to a solution from the past like PHP :)

I've been quite interested in Rust as well! It definitely sounds like a great candidate to replace JS!

It's true that WASM has gone a long way, but within WASM there are quite a few language options, so I wondered which one people would consider the best choice to take JS's throne. :) Rust definitely sounds like a great one for that!

crystal would be nice. Looks like a scripting language but it has types. It's cool.

At the moment, based on the agency I currently work for, I'd be using PHP. Why, you ask? Because that's what I do at the moment.

I'll occasionally break out the Javascript if it's needed, and I find it quite fun to be fair, but I wouldn't be particularly heartbroken if it disappeared overnight.

PHP is a dinosaur in the tech space!

Does that matter? The question isn't asking about what you'd use if Javascript fizzled out due to old age, it's a genie-in-a-bottle hypotherical.

I don't particularly like PHP, but it's not going away any time soon...

I would imagine one of the old school alternatives to JS would have appeared, Flash, WPF / SIlverlight, ActiveX, VBScript.

And if none of them won I am sure we as developers would have come up with workarounds etc.

I mean I created an animation without JavaScript, CSS or images recently, so I am pretty sure we would have adapted somehow as long as we had HTML (or yet again, a close alternative)!

how to make a pub like pub games => onclick show pub video

Has anyone been hanging out in the Elixir/Phoenix space?

have this solutions:

• ruby: hotwire hotwire.dev/;
• php: livewire laravel-livewire.com/;
• elixr: phoenix phoenixframework.org;

they abstract javascript does not replace it

Obvious choice is python as there are already mature web libraries like flask, but my new favorite stack is using lambdas like a normal server. If you go that route you can write them in Java, Go, PowerShell, Node. js, C#, Python, and Ruby. I'm working on a project right now, I wrote the server in node as an (aws) api gateway lambda proxy, without using any libraries. I eventually decided to rewrite it as a node/express server, and it's kind-of badass. The most cost efficient option I can imagine while also effortlessly scaling to meet extremely high demand. Lambda can scale up to 1000 concurrent connections, in theory you would need 125 8 core ec2 boxes to match the "multi-threaded" processing power. That's a pretty bloated estimate as there are other variables that will slow down lambdas, but you get the idea. The second reason I love this system is deployment bliss. It's fast to launch stacks with cloudformation when the heaviest thing it has to do is update a single lambda. This means you can build continuous delivery/integration automation into your dev tooling (github actions), you can quickly launch "staging" stacks, removing the need for a blue/green type system. Updates are immediate and rolling, meaning you don't have to launch the new task before stopping the old task to achieve zero downtime. Ok I'm done geeking out on my new serverless server design.

Python, PHP can replace JavaScript.
BUT DAD WILL BE DAD LOL
On a serious note though, I think a lot of languages like python, C#, java can be great successors.
As I believe.

• Frameworks are all about declarative programming we don't have to explicitly write the logic.
• Also Javascript is not C++ so we're not so much concerned about beast mode performance.

Hence It's important but so was Internet Explorer, If you can feel me.

Thanks to @technoglot , I really thought about that after she cleverly tricked us all.
Correct me if I am wrong, just my first thoughts.

PHP. I started learning it and I like it very much

Dart or Rust could be the winner IMO.

Jk

The fact here is that you can't have JavaScript dead even when it is dead. The end of JavaScript is tied to the existing browsers and the existing web. Because of how the web is, we will need progressive adoption of whatever new scripting language we agree on. And, that browsers will need to interpret both languages until all of the web is free of JavaScript. I hope we can see how that will go. It is too much work to properly declare JavaScript dead.

I believe we can't have JavaScript go POOF. Even magically.

If you really hate JavaScript and really want to write websites in a new language, you can write a transpiler for the language you love. Or be a patriotic JavaScript developer and introduce a better version of JavaScript. That, in my opinion, is JSFuck. Haha JK.

Few people program in the Javascript that your browser actually runs and supports. That Javascript is basically the assembly of the web. So Javascript would be replaced by a different assembly, WASM. And then the explicit language you use won't matter.

Me, I'd use F#. But I already use it and compile it to Javascript. I'd just switch compile targets.

The only language that comes to mind is "Eengekkanmeervragendantienwijzenkunnenantwoorden"

JavaScript is no more? Now what?

On the front-end, pretty much anything if we count on WASM (which is still not that much used in the production but definitely will be in the future).

Languages rarely get replaced. There are tons of COBOL code out there in the wild which couldn't be replaced because many huge bank systems rely on it. You can't just go and rewrite it in something else.

Maybe flutter (dart)

The browser only understand JavaScript so noting can really replace it for frontend design lots of interactions would no longer be posible or be really painfull to do with just css, and checkbox hacks, for the backend it would just be python

If javascript is dead, then the web is also likely dead... so theoretically we've either outgrown the web and there's something shinier to move on to or... the machines have risen up... and well... in that case...

🙌 All Hail our A.I. 🤖 overlords!

If javascript died I'd imagine the internet would be fragmented into all the languages compiling to WASM. It's like when Mp3.com was shut down several alternatives came to exist none ever having the same market share or mind share MP3.com had. But I'd probably switch over to Go with WASM unless there was a solid PHP wasm compiler.

Javascript is not dead, it's doing very well, but if you're looking for an easy and fast alternative to Javascript then I recommend you ELM-Lang. In ELM you can write a new page in seconds.

This is a simple question.

Typescript

Do you know, you can embed an ActiveX control on the webpage?
All you need is Internet Explorer 5.0, and it doesn't involve JavaScript.

But then, if you have Internet Explorer 5.0, you can run Microsoft VBScript.

WebAssembly without doubts

I hated JS because I come from the Java background. But after sometime I fall in love with it. I read "The Good Parts" and "You don't know Js" series, it helped me broaden my knowledge. Then the quirks of it became challenge for me to achieve the job without any insanity. To gain maximum creativity and velocity with your code you need to be bounded. Rethink again, look at your code and ask yourself is it as right and fast as possible. No! Because instead of learning js, you were learning the trend. No, it is not dead for me. On the other hand, I'm getting to know it better. Vanilla!

Did it really die? or is it just to discuss if it dies?

The language that can be read by a web browser.

Ah, so a good candidate has to lack a learning curve. 😀 Makes sense.

Joking aside, there are a few good candidates. I spent some time over the years writing various implementations of Conways Game of Life in different languages and learnt a lot: github.com/KieranP/Game-Of-Life-Im...

In my opinion, the best candidate to replace Javascript would be DartLang. It's similar in many areas to Javascript, but significantly faster. And it powers Flutter, a framework for building android and ios applications from a single codebase. I think having the web and mobile coded in the same language could be very helpful/unifying.

In the hypothetical future from the OP where JS stops working, I'm sure plans would change.

This scenario is perfect to Flash return 🤣

I vote for Clojure.

TYPESCRIPT XD
only typescript can replace javascript haha

We no longer create for browsers, clients expect apps to work in all Edge market share is too low, to spend extra budget on and mostweb devs hate .net already...😁

The first iteration of Javascript was actually a lisp dialect. So probably that.

You can read about it on the creator's (of Javascript) blog: brendaneich.com/2008/04/popularity/

Maybe Brendan Eich had the right idea when he wanted to use Scheme as the browser language before Netscape nixed the idea. Now we have Clojurescript and Elm trying to achieve the same thing.

That's not how lambda works. Lambda is the least expensive infrastructure in my org.

Requests $0.20 per 1M requests
Duration $0.0000166667 for every GB-second

SAM-cli (optional) -> aws cloudformation (optional) -> (aws) api gateway -> lambda proxy

It’s time to deconstruct JavaScript

Well if JS is dead TS is also dead.... so PHP has always been there, but another alternatives could be Dart/Go or C#... or any other with WASM

Rust :D

You guys are all in denial, we need to start using Clojurescript. Everything's going functional anyway, why not abstract away the syntax?

Did everyone forget Lua? That was a nice thing, a certain grown-up site still uses Lua for its extern resource calls I heard.

PHP

But would other none M$ Browsers want it?! Also what about none Chromium browsers like the MacOS one that Apple feels protect their users better, how long till Apple will try to kill other browsers for security reasons the same way they killed Flash?

pffff

I think there should be one Programming language for both Front End and Backend.

This will help us by spending time in building products instead of learning all the new frameworks.

Microsoft has the answer by introducing Blazor

Blazor : Build client web apps with C#

Check out Blazor: dotnet.microsoft.com/apps/aspnet/w...

First, I assume that the browsers will eventually understand the replacements. If the JavaScript somehow dies, I think there are lots of candidate that can fill this role. I will talk about the languages that can fill JavaScript role if it die.

1. TypeScript
   Instead of compiling into JavaScript, it becomes a complete language. There will be no more wtf with JavaScript because if it's going to replace JavaScript, it will need to come up with their own power. The new TypeScript will eventually remove all of JavaScript weirdness.

2. Python
   Because it is a simple language just like JavaScript. Python can model DOM as well as JavaScript and it can become even better. Python is more consistent that JavaScript so it will make development easier.

3. Dart
   There are already a way to write React and Angular app in Dart now. If the browser can understand Dart just like JavaScript in this day, it can become the main language of writing web application. The downside is the syntax can be ugly. You can see it clearer if you try to develop something in Flutter.